SPOILER ALERT!
SENSITIVE TOPIC ALERT!
PIP RAGE ALERT!
Good. I think we have covered everything.
With Tee and Pip flying solo in studio, the original topic for The Shared Desk is set aside for the controversy and the (important) debate fans, geeks, and writers of Game of Thrones have been engaging in since Sunday night. Has everything that could have been said about what happened in Westeros been said already?
Tee and Pip don’t seem to think so…
00:00 — Introduction
- Angry drop-ins set the tone for this episode
- Where are our in-studio guests?
- What has Tee been working on since the last show?
- Pip refuses to slow down after the launching of Dawn’s Early Light.
- Pip’s Kickstarter story, Tangi A Te Ruru/The Cry of the Morepork featuring Aroha Murphy, is close to release.
- Her latest idea combining early Hollywood and Mesopetanian Gods has been submitted.
- Continuing development on Immortal Progeny, and Silver Pharaoh featuring Verity Fitrzroy and the Ministry Seven.
- There’s another idea in the mix about a social media guide for writers…
6:20 — Game of Thrones, Hot Buttons, and Responsibility…from a Writer’s Point-of-View
- Multiple Alarms for this Shared Desk…
- Spoilers Ahead.
- Hot Buttons Ahead.
- Trigger Warnings.
- If this kind of talk bothers you, please, JUMP AHEAD TO TIME MARKER 38:49
- THAT scene from last Sunday’s Game of Thrones from both a fan’s point-of-view and a writer’s point-of-view.
- Jamie rapes Circe.
- It was rape. Pure and simple. We’ve established this.
- Since Sunday, the Internet has lost its mind over this episode…
- …but a LOT has happened over three seasons, hasn’t it?
- Comparing the book to the miniseries. Not much better.
- Back on the project organization…
- Lauren does the longhand approach.
- Pip can’t read her own handwriting, but she still grabs random scraps of paper to get notes down.
- Tee prefers the digital approach to notes.
- One issue (of many) that Tee has with the scene/episode: It’s being handled by George R.R. Martin and HBO terribly.
- Westeros — not the safest place to be…
- Tee and Pip agree — Circe did not ask for it.
- Is anyone really “entertained” by rape?
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- Tee (and Chuck Wendig) go on record about Jamie that few (if any) admits to with Jamie — people started to LIKE and TRUST Jamie Lannister.
- Pip goes into the relationship of Jamie and Brianne.
- Jamie Lannister. Not really a nice guy.
- Jamie Lannister in the baths. Okay, we LIKE him.
- Tee spells out Jamie’s rough and bumpy homecoming, and shows the build-up and the psychological snap that led to this moment.
- Where did Tee get his degree in Psychology? The ID Channel, of course.
- Comparing Jamie Lannister to Ted Bundy. (Yeah, we go there.)
- Fans don’t understand why “good” characters make terrible choices.
- Jamie doesn’t know what true honor is.
- Should rape be addressed in fiction or in movies, television, and other mediums?
- Tee really doesn’t like “entertainment” used in the same sentence as “rape.”
- Pip echoes Chuck’s opinion while playing the Woman Card.
- Rape as a character flaw…
- ….and how Vikings plays rape strictly as a character flaw, and offends both Tee and Pip
- No kidding, Pip and Tee have been talking about this FOR DAYS!
- The difference between the Angle-Saxon Princess and Jamie Lannister — we got to know him.
- Does this episode of Game of Thrones mean we as writers should not write about these topics? Not at all.
- Tee lays himself on the chopping block with Legacy of Morevi…which he wishes GRRM and HBO would do.
- If you’re going to write about ugly issues, prepare to research things you won’t like to research.
- Showing love for Hannibal…and recognizing the difference between serial killers and rapists.
- Be aware of your audience.
- We love Vikings…but we didn’t care for this particular moment.
- Take responsibility for your writing and understand the impact of your words.
38:49 — The Wrap-Up
- That bumper music feels a little inappropriate, doesn’t it?
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- This podcast needed to happen. Words have weight.
- Where will we be in the next few weeks?
- See you in two weeks!
- And if you’re still listening to us after this show, thanks!!!
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